Showing posts with label brettanomyces. Show all posts
Showing posts with label brettanomyces. Show all posts

August 5, 2015

Open House and Great Taste Pre-Party

Funk Factory Geuzeria
Madison, WI 53715

We have the Geuzeria cleaned up and have invited some friends to bring beer for an amazing Great Taste Pre-Party.  O'so Brewing Company and Penrose Brewing will be there, and our friends at Yazoo/Embrace the Funk have sent a couple treats including our collaboration beer "OSO U FUNK TOO?".  Oh yea, and our friends at Underground Food Collective will be there with food!


June 24, 2013

Cider Fermentation Panel: Bottling & Tasting

06/24/13

Last weekend I met the guys at Leidel's orchard for a final taste and to bottle the ciders.  I'm glad we tasted these again as there are some big differences on a few batches.  We purposefully didn't look up our old tasting notes and only compared after we had re-tasted them all and made new notes.  Here are our notes from this session:

  1. Brett drie (BSI)
    - some tartness, light, crisp, refreshing, although a bit thin.
  2. Brett custersianus
    - sweet, tropical, pineapple/mango, nice body.
  3. Brett nanus
    - barnyard and pineapple aroma, tastes strongly of pineapple juice. great flavor, but kind of intense.
  4. Brett lambicus (wyeast)
    - not flavorful, watery.  slightly cheesy and tart.
  5. Brett bruxellensis (wyeast)
    - very flavorful. pear, melon, citrus and a bit of alcohol.
  6. Brett claussenii (WL)
    - pungent aroma, citrus, floral, and dry.  saison-like.
  7. Brett fantome
    - pretty good mouthfeel.  complex, tart apple, a very soft blue-cheese like funk (good), nice funky aroma.
  8. Saccharomyces paradoxus
    - watery, slight funk and citrus.
  9. Brett blend
    - got a lot going on, but not very flavorful as a whole.  funky, fruity, citrus.
  10. Brett blend and oenococcus
    - muted flavor as compared to #9.  The acidity was mellowed, and so I see there may be potential value in this addition, but likely only as a secondary fermentation, or partial blend.
  11. Brett blend with maltodextrin addition
    - As compared to #9, a bit drier of a finish, thicker body, more robust flavor. a bit more alcohol.
We decided only Drie, Custer, Nanus, Brux, Claussenii, and Fantome were worth bottling.  The plan is to open these bottles over the summer and get a good understanding of each strain and how they may develop now that they are off the traub. For larger production this fall, we will be making a couple blends from the strains we like best.

Some interesting information comes in comparing our notes from the sampling we did a month ago.  The biggest changes were in Nanus and Claussenii.  A month ago Nanus tasted of rotting fruit and cheese.  It wasn't even drinkable, but now it was one of our favorites and had a huge pineapple flavor.  Claussenii was very stale in flavor, but now has a beautiful floral/citrus flavor.  

If you are looking to brew a brett cider, it is important to note that brettanomyces continues working even after fermentation has completed and it may take a couple months to develop the desired flavor.  For those homebrewers who don't want to wait more than a month, I would recommend Wyeast's B. bruxellensis (note: this is different than White Lab's) as it had a great flavor profile in both tasting sessions and is an easy strain to obtain.

On a side note, I also bottled up my Cider Keeve and Foraged Farmhouse the previous weekend.  More on that coming soon...
Bottled cider keeve.
Bottled Cider Keeve.

June 17, 2013

Brett Strain Guide

Brandon at EmbraceTheFunk.com and I have put together this Guide for all of the brett strains we know of out there.  As new strains come out, we will be updating the list.  A big thank you to Al Buck at East Coast Yeast for helping with much of the taxonomy and history of the strains.



Hopefully this helps clear the confusion out there about the different strains and their relationship to each other.

May 19, 2013

Cider Fermentation Panel: Tasting

I met with the guys at Leidel's orchard agian last weekend to check in on the wild cider fermentation experiments.  We took gravity readings and sampled each batch.  Here are the results:
  1. Brett drie (BSI) - 1.000
    - orange peal, citrus, tropical fruit, pineapple, tingling feeling on the sides of the tongue. 
  2. Brett custersianus - 0.999
    - lemonade like citrus, cherry, white wine, flavor not intense, but pleasant.  slightly watery.
  3. Brett nanus - 0.998
    - overripe/rotting fruit, cheesy, not pleasant. 
  4. Brett lambicus (wyeast) - 0.995
    - grassy/woody, watery flavor, tingly.
  5. Brett bruxellensis (wyeast) - 0.999
    - hay and floral funk with sweet nectarine. 
  6. Brett claussenii (WL) - 0.998
    - light citrus, watery, yeasty.
  7. Brett fantome (ECY) - 0.998
    - hay funk, green apple tartness, tingly.
  8. Saccharomyces paradoxus - 0.998
    - buttery Chardonnay, candy sweetness.
  9. Brett blend (drie, claussenii, fantome, ECY05) - 0.998
    - light citrus
  10. Brett blend and oenococcus - 0.995
    - as compared to #9, less tart and more alcoholic.  less flavor.  watery.
  11. Brett blend with maltodextrin addition - 0.996
    - as compared to #9, smooth/creamy feel and more flavorful.
We didn't bottle as this was the only gravity reading I have and don't know what the FG will be for any of these.  Normally you might think 1.000 is a safe number, but having batches at 0.995 makes me cautious.

The base cider we used was intentionally a neutral and lacking flavor.  This allowed us to more easily pick out the flavor of the yeast only.  As you can see from the Brett fantome batch, we could taste a green apple flavor and know that it wasn't from the base cider, but rather the yeast.   So while this was beneficial, I think its important to note that the base cider wasn't very flavorful and led to some batches tasting "watery".  This might be better stated "the yeast strain didn't produce a very large amount of flavor".  With a different base cider blend, these may still be viable strains for producing tasty cider.

It was very interesting to feel this tingling sensation on the sides of my tongue from some batches.  I have no idea what that is and have never experienced it before.  Future batches are required to see if this is something brett does in cider.

Batches #10 and #11 are worth talking about more.  While we were experiencing some palette fatigue, it was easy to compare them against #9 and see the impact from the addition of oenococcus and maltodextrin in cider.  Quite simply, oenococcus wrecked the brett fermentation while maltodextrin enhanced it.  I was skeptical that maltodextrin would do anything as I knew the brett would eat it away, but it does seem to have helped both the mouthfeel and the flavor.

The favorite batches were drie, custersianus, bruxellensis, fantome and paradoxus.  I already feel like I want to revisit some of these strains, so I am going to hold off final judgement until I taste these a few times.  Also, I'm looking forward to tasting them once carbonated, but it will be a few weeks before I have another chance to get up there and bottle.

April 1, 2013

Cider Fermentation Panel: Yeast Pitched

Over the weekend I met with the guys at Leidel's Orchard to do our brett cider experiment.  The yeast arrived safely, the juice was ready, and they had purchased all the carboys/bungs/airlocks needed.
Wild yeast strains from East Coast Yeast
Wild yeast strains from East Coast Yeast
After we sanitized everything, we filled each carboy with 3 gallons of juice.  To ensure that our pitched yeast would be the source of 100% of the fermentation, the juice had been pasteurized at the pack house and then shipped to us frozen.  While we were waiting for the juice to warm up to room temperature, I dissolved 5 ounces of maltodextrin into some juice, and then added it to the juice already in carboy #11. (batch list here)
11 wild cider batches
11 wild cider batches
Later that evening the yeast was added.  The only yeast strain that didn't come from East Coast Yeast was the B. Brux, which came from Wyeast.  24 hours after pitching every carboy except #5 (Brux) was in active fermentation.  #3 (Nanus), #7 (Fantome), and the brett blend batches were the most active.  Giving them a slight shake would almost blow out all the star-san solution in the airlock!

They will be left in that room, which is a steady 60 degrees, for the next month or two.  Unfortunately, the orchard is 2.5 hours from where I live, so I won't be able to check on it regularly, or take weekly gravity readings.  The goal of this experiment is primarily to see the flavor/aroma contribution of each of these strains and to find which ones we like in cider.

March 29, 2013

Cider Fermentation Panel

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I've been working with Leidel's Apple Orchard on a few hard cider pilot batches.  The past experiments have been more complicated, expensive, time consuming fermentation styles.  We now want to see if we could come up with a "table cider"; something that doesn't require oak barrels nor take 9+ months to ferment and age.

After giving some thought to the different kinds of ciders out there and how we could make something new and interesting, I got the idea of doing a 100% brett fermented cider.  Surprisingly, there is very little information out there on how brett (in general and individual strains) performs in cider.  Even in the homebrew world there are only a few people who have tried 100% brett fermentation for cider.  Most commercial cider operations (and a lot of home brewers) come at cider from the wine world, which hates brett, and so they refuse to even consider it.  So, coming from the beer world, specifically the "wild" beer world, it seems I have a fresh look at the possibilities.

First, we need to get an understanding of how each individual strain of brett performs and the flavors/aromas it creates in cider.  I would also like to get an idea of how brett performs when paired with a malolactic fermentation.  Apple juice has malic acid, which is a harsher acid.  Oenococcus can be used to convert the malic acid to the softer lactic acid.  In addition, I would like to see the impact of adding maltodextrines to a 100% brett cider fermentation.  Maltodextrins are complex sugars that normal brewing yeast is not able to break down and consume, leaving the beer with a fuller body and mouthfeel.  Theoretically brett has the ability to break these complex sugars down, but some home brewers have reported a difference in using maltodextrin with brett fermentation.

We decided to do test batch for all of the individual brett strains possible.  Once again I reached out to Al Buck at East Coast Yeast, who has been so helpful in the past, to supply the yeast.  In addition to providing the brett strains, he recommended a "wild" saccharomyces strain call S. Paradoxus.  I am particularly excited about this as it has the ability to do a partial malolactic fermentation on its own.

So here is the list of the 3 gallon batches we will be starting this weekend:
  1. Brett drie (BSI)
  2. Brett custersianus
  3. Brett nanus
  4. Brett lambicus (wyeast)
  5. Brett bruxellensis (wyeast)
  6. Brett claussenii (WL)
  7. Brett fantome (ECY)
  8. Saccharomyces paradoxus
  9. Brett blend (drie, claussenii, fantome, ECY05)
  10. Brett blend and oenococcus
  11. Brett blend with maltodextrin addition
I'm really looking forward to this experiment.  I expect it to take a month or two to finish fermentation, but I will make sure to report the results here as soon as I have them.

February 17, 2013

Cider Keeve: Day 62

This weekend is the 2 month mark for the Cider Keeve so I wanted to check in on it, get a gravity reading, and see how it tastes/smells.  As I mentioned last time, I was anticipating a gravity of ~1.010, and at 1.008 it is going right as I hoped.
Keeved Cider at 2 months
Keeved Cider at 2 months.
Now for the big question; how does it smell and taste?  To be honest, it was very hard to judge and the smell/flavor was not like any cider I've had.  The smell had this earthy, floral, and licorice combination with a hint of honey and apple skin.  It reminded me of a mead.  When I drank it, the flavor and body made me think I was drinking a mead or a wine.  My wife said it reminded her a lot of Chardonnay.  There was also a strawberry flavor and a slight tannin note.  It had a very nice tartness; not too sharp, but still pronounced.  At it's current gravity, I find it slightly thick, although if it were carbonated, it might be nice.

My biggest hope in checking in on the cider at this point was to see if the Brett was working in tandem to the Saccharo.  Based on the aroma, I would say yes.  However, it didn't translate much into the flavor...at least not at this point.  So I can't really say definitely if the Brett has been playing an active role or not.  I think it is on track for a keeve fermentation, and will just require some more time to see how flavors develop.

Since we were down checking on this, I decided to check on the Minimalist Lambic, which has been fermenting for over 7 months.  Gravity, as expected, is 1.000.  It smells pungent of typical lambic aroma.  Mostly grassy and barnyard funk.  Some hops and a slight phenol.  The taste was very interesting.  It has a very big funky/earthy/grassy flavor, but then has this lingering void, and then a hop bitterness.  The sourness is there, but not that high.  What is interesting is that its hard to call it "watery" or "one-noted", but it is definitely lacking complexity.  This isn't much of a surprise considering it is fermented with a single Brett strain where lambic traditionally has many many strains.

January 9, 2013

Cider Keeve: Day 23

I checked in on the cider keeve last night.  I wanted to see how the fermentation was going.  As I mentioned in my earlier post, I am hoping for a slow fermentation that will, in theory, allow the Brett a chance to eat some of the sugars instead of the Sacchro dominating everything.

Upon looking at the carboy, I felt hopeful.  The head had kept at a soft dense foam.  I really don't have a lot of experience with fermenting cider, but it just seemed like the type of head that would result from a slow fermentation.  What has surprised me is the color of the cider.  It was so dark before, and now it is an almost vibrant orange color.
Keeved cider fermenting with Lambic yeast.
Keeved cider fermenting.
When I tested the gravity, I didn't know what to expect.  All I knew is that I was hoping for a high number indicating a slow fermentation and that the keeving process actually worked.  Today I came across this graph of gravity readings from keeved cider fermentations:

Lambourn Valley Cider

My gravity reading was 1.032.  Fantastic!  I am on track with other keeved ciders, so I now know I achieved a successful keeve.

When I think about the lambics I've done (1 and 2), they were at ~1.010 at the 2 month mark.  I anticipate this cider will be at about the same gravity.  The question is, what will the Brett have done in that time, and what, if anything, will it continue to do in this nutrient poor environment?

(Also, I plan to put some Drie Fonteinen dregs in there tonight to make sure there are stronger Brett strains than the Wyeast ones.)

December 17, 2012

Cider Keeve

I have been working with Leidel's Orchard up in La Cresent, MN.  They are looking into making hard cider, and after much discussion/research/brainstorming with the owners about the type of product they want to make, our pilot batches include a "Saison barrel", a "Natural barrel", and a "Keeve carboy".  I'll wait for another day to talk about the barrels, but I wanted to post a bit on the keeve batch.

Keeving is a old-world cider technique that has largely been forgotten, but is still done by some traditional cider makers in the UK and France. Simply put keeving releases natural pectin into the apple juice which then coagulates, removing much of the nutrients from the juice. As the yeast ferments the keeved juice, it uses the remaining nutrients, but runs out before it can ferment all of the sugar.  Traditionally, this has been done to create a naturally sweet cider.  For more information on the process, read this.

When I learned about this process and how it works, I thought about how lambic wort is brewed to have a lot of complex sugars that Saccharomyces can't eat, which leaves a portion of the sugars for the Brettanomyces.  I began to wonder if Brett would survive in a nutrient poor environment after the Saccharo died out.  So the purpose of this experiment is to see what will happen if I pitch lambic yeast into keeved cider.

However, this turned out to be a very difficult and laborious process.  I started with nearly 4 bushels (160lbs) of apples.  They had to be sent through a mill and the pulp left to sit for 24 hours (to release the pectin).  The next day we pressed the pulp, but our efficiency was about half that of a commercial cider press (and 10 times the work).  Leidel's Orchard actually spoke with a couple commercial presses keeving, but they were unable to do this process without a major rework of their set up.  I was hoping to get 8+ gallons, so I borrowed a friend's 12 gallon glass carboy to use as a keeving tank.  I only ended up with 6 gallons.

Then the keeving process starts.  The first step is to allow the pectin to coagulate in the cider.  Some modern additives help this process, but it is still a bit of an art.  The carboy was stored in my refrigerator for 10 days where it is cold enough to stall fermentation until the coagulated pectin gel has formed.

Coagulated pectin during a cider keeve.
Most of the gel that formed fell to the bottom and is sitting on top of the sediment
The next step is to allow fermentation to start and the CO2 bubbles will lift the coagulated pectin to the surface making it possible to siphon out the juice in the middle.  I left it at room temperature for 5 days, which is much longer than I was told to expect, and only had a minimal amount of fermentation start.
Cider keeve separation
Separation of cider and pectin gel.
Pectin gel pushed to the top by CO2 bubbles.
Pectin gel pushed to the top by CO2 bubbles.
Only about half of the pectin gel was pushed to the top, while the rest stayed on the bottom of the jar.  I would have liked waiting until all of the pectin was pushed up, but I feared fermentation would accelerate too fast and I would be left with a cloudy cider.  Also, as the pectin gel at the top was exposed to the air, some mold was starting to grow.  I decided it was best to siphon at this point rather than risk ruining the whole batch.  As I siphoned, I also strained the keeved juice to capture any particles that might have been stirred up.

5 gallons of keeved cider with lambic blend yeast
5 gallons of keeved cider with lambic blend yeast added.
In the end I was left with 5 gallons of clear, keeved, cider.  To that I added Wyeast Lambic Blend.  It will likely take 9-12 months before I know if the experiment worked, and if its anything like lambic, may take 2 years to really develop.  Apple cider is all simple sugars, and normally the Saccharo would out compete everything else.  My hope is that I've stripped out enough nutrients in this keeve to slow the Saccharo and allow the Brett/Pedio/Lacto to do their work in tandem.

July 18, 2012

Minimalist Lambic: Fermentation

We had some extra lambic wort at the end of the O'so brewday, so a few of us filled up carboys to take home.  Instead of buying a lambic blend yeast, I thought I would try something new; I wanted to try fermenting the wort as simply as possible.  The 4 main players in Lambic fermentation are Saccro, Brett, Lacto, and Pedio.  Between the two bacteria strains (Lacto & Pedio), I have read that Pedio does the lion's share of creating the acidity in Lambic, so I chose that one.  When Pedio is fermenting, it gives off diacetyl, which is a buttery off flavor.  Brett however eats the diacetyl compound and therefor should always be used in conjunction with Pedio.  So, between the two yeast options (Saccro & Brett), I really don't have a choice but to use Brett, although that is what I would have picked anyway.  The strain of Brett I picked was Brett Brux, as I like the barnyard funk flavors and thought it would complement fruit additions later on should I choose to add any.

I pitched the Brett & Pedio into my 6 gallon Better Bottle full of Lambic wort on Sunday.  On Tuesday noticeable fermentation started.  Here is what it looks like:
Lambic fermentation with only Brett B & Pedio
Once the primary settles down, I'll go put this next to my pilot Lambic barrel to sit for at least a year.  I'm looking forward to watching the pellicle and potential ropy stage through this carboy.  It will be much easier to see and document than oak barrels have been.  I'm also looking forward to seeing how Marc decided to ferment his portion of lambic.

January 17, 2012

East Coast Yeast

Al Buck, microbiologist and avid homebrewer, has been making and sharing brewing cultures for years both locally (Central Jersey) and across the US. He's now making some cultures available through Princeton Homebrew and through special projects.


Al is the brewer behind The Bruery's Grand Funk Aleroad.  He helped Goose Island with their Juliet barrels.  And according to his Facebook page, they are doing something with New Belgium.  However, I think the biggest testament is the fact that their entire stock is sold out.  Al will be sending me a blend of their yeast/bugs for my pilot lambic barrel project.  Given the fact that homebrewers can't stop raving about its results, I have high hopes.

January 4, 2012

Pellicle

The skin.  The pellicle is the thin layer that forms on the top of the wort.  It occurs when yeast, especially brett, come into contact with oxygen.  The first time you see it, it looks a little scary.  But once you come to understand what it does, its kind of neat.

The pellicle looks like it would be bad for the beer, but in actuality its very good.  A lot of things happen during the lambic brewing process as sort of a "self-check" or corrective measure, this is one.  The yeast likes a little oxygen, but not a lot.  It forms this protein based skin to separate the wort from the oxygen.  The pellicle also protects the wort from unwanted bugs such as acetobacter that would just destroy the beer and turn it into vinegar.  Take another look at the picture.  Its kind of pretty isn't it?

December 29, 2011

Two great presentations on Sours/Lambics.

Vinnie Cilurzo's (Russian River) presentation on Sour Beers:
Audio (skip ahead to 1hr 30min) & Slide Show.

Chad Yakobson (Crooked Stave & Brettanomyces Project) presentation on Brett:
Video & Slide Show.

Update:  Chad Yakobson talks about brett and his beers on The Brewing Network. (skip ahead to 50min)

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